“Wait, So is this a romantic date?” Podcast Episode 209: Bottoming with Chingy | Autostraddle

Let’s earn some noise when it comes to soles in the home! (It’s myself, underneath at home.) Bottom society is starting to become quite anything™ on line as of late! Exactly what does it truly mean to get a bottom? Precisely why contains the culture made the decision bottoming is synonymous with becoming afraid to inquire about for just what you desire? And how does one start determining when they like bottoming?!

With these questions rattling around our very own thoughts, demanding responses, Drew and that I knew there clearly was singular person we can easily go to for a rounded, passionate conversation about bottoming: The Gay Chingy AKA Chingy Nea, AKA The Bottom Supreme. Chingy is just one of the greatest individuals i am aware creating and tweeting now, and also as a bottom myself personally, Im recognized to call her my personal frontrunner. Chingy allows us to tease down exactly what it way to be a bottom, why she detests “smol bean” bottom culture, your body as opening, as well as your human body as

total

. It is a really breathtaking talk, if I would say so myself! Please understand that I am aware that I state “gorgeous” around three thousand instances this event, and I am seeking assistance for my personal situation. (the illness is actually talking like 57 year old white homosexual guy.)

And! Recently’s online game entails myself guessing if challenging plots Drew describes are part of a film or a dream she had circa 2006. It is hard!


SHOW NOTES

+ Study Chingy’s
Bottom Manifesto
, follow her
on Twitter
and
IG
!

+The following is a summary of all the flicks that received found in her game:


  • The Seventh Seal

    (1937)

  • Mentioning Child

    (1938)


  • Pierrot ce Fou


    (1965)

  • Dark Swan

    (2010)

+Watch Anna Faris perform the most readily useful work of her job in

Smiley Face!


+Let

Shohreh Aghdashloo chat you to rest while dressed as Chrisjen


Avasarala


from

The Expanse

because you deserve that.


+Cindy Wilson of this B52s is fairly hot and honestly? “Love Shack” nonetheless whips!


+
Robert Mitchum
, stone-cold fox.



EPISODE


Chingy

: I’ve simply already been bottoming since I was actually, I’m not sure, as far back as I can bear in mind.


Drew

: Cue Rags to Riches from

Goodfellas.


Chingy

: dating back to i could remember, i usually planned to end up being a base, no, but kind of

[intro plays]


Drew

: Hi, I Am Drew.


Christina

: I’m Christina.


Drew

: Thanks for visiting

Wait, Is This a Date

?


Christina

:

Wait, So Is This a romantic date?

is actually an Autostraddle podcast dedicated to the main one, the actual only real the biggest question of our own occasions: hold off, Is This a romantic date?


Drew

: And, wow, i must say i only froze up here.


Christina

: I became like, oh shit, I was expected to say one thing! [laughs]


Drew

: i am really quick on the banter, my mind just… The truth is that I became checking out over my game records, which we aren’t at yet because we still have to present ourselves. Therefore, I’m going to just be sure to stay centered on one job at one time.


Christina

: Focus up!


Drew

: i’m called Drew Gregory, Im a writer for Autostraddle, and a filmmaker, and a trans girl.


Christina

: Hi, my name is Christina Tucker, forgot my finally title for a hot min, no big deal. I’m also an author at Autostraddle and other locations on the net, a podcaster, a gay black colored girl. Which is types of it, puppy, that is myself.


Drew

: i really like it. Okay, today we-


Christina

: Now the game.


Drew

: are we able to play the online game?


Christina

: Can we get to the online game? I am able to inform you’re excited, I will tell you’re simply shaking.


Drew

: Thus, i am keeping an aspiration diary since 2007, while the premise for this video game is actually-


Christina

: I did not know this about you!


Drew

: Yes, it isn’t as latest now, we regularly record all my hopes and dreams now its only when anything really sticks. But, the assumption of your video game is, am I explaining the storyline of a dream I’d once I had been a teenager, or am we describing the storyline of a movie that I loved while I was a teenager?


Christina

: Oh guy, okay.


Drew

: Thus, how it is going to go is we’ll usually explain it an aspiration and in 1st individual. So, if it ended up being

Superstar Wars,

I’d wind up as, I’m in space and that I’m fighting as part of a rebellion, there’s an evil  man that is sporting a black robot suit and it also works out he is my dad. Which is the way I’ll explain it, the way we explain goals, but sometimes it will be a dream, often it’ll end up being from a movie. Prepared?


Christina

: i am anything, I’m not sure that I’m ready, but let us rock. Let us see what I am able to do right here.


Drew

: Okay, i am on a coastline and I also see this unusual guy dressed in black colored. He tells me he’s Death so we can take advantage of a-game to determine basically live or if he requires me. We are able to avoid, but every-where I go, men and women are sick and I also feel like Death still is soon after me.The merely happy component happens when I fulfill a theater troupe and they’re a lot of enjoyment.


Christina

: This,In my opinion, is an aspiration.


Drew

: This would be Ingmar Bergman’s

The Seventh Seal

from 1957.


Christina

: it is going to be an actual gotcha on CT’s traditional movie expertise, because everything I understand that Drew, within puberty, was not carrying out was actually enjoying motion pictures that I’m going to know. Now, I’m type of wishing that I’ve seen not one of them. In my opinion which will be more fun for me personally.


Drew

: the next one, i am interviewing my loved ones plus some Italian United states gangsters. One of many gangsters needs that I provide over some cash, but my family and that I been able to get away. We try to escape through all this work cold surface, on the road we meet an actress and connect to this lady. We end up in a suburb. In my opinion we are going to begin a brand new existence collectively until she requires us to a huge residence, and I realize it is one of the gangster. It had been all a trap, the gangster shows up so there’s a confrontation. We kill him, the dream stops because of the actress carrying out a musical number.


Christina

: Is it a film?


Drew

: this will be a dream I’d in 2008.


Christina

: Okay, wow. Boy, yeah, i suppose i must remember that it’s 2000, it really is old school Drew head. That’s what i must bear in mind.


Drew

: In addition like, what motion pictures ended up being we seeing at the time as well as how much performed that effect my personal dreams?


Christina

: Well, yeah, obviously quite a bit!


Drew

: A fun truth is that I found myself really, i did not consist of this because I was thinking this could provide out, although gangster was Tony Soprano because I found myself watching

The Sopranos

in 2008. So, which is a fun little reality. Okay, next one, i’ve a significant task, but this hot girl appears and starts sidetracking myself. I would like to be together with her, but I also need to get my work completed, therefore I inform their to depart. She keeps following me personally. Suddenly, a leopard looks in my room and I also need spend remainder of the dream trying to find the leopard. I’m still truly nervous, I never ever complete my work, but at the very least your ex is actually hot.


Christina

: it’s to be an aspiration you have, it’s to-be a Drew dream.


Drew

: It Is Howard Hawks’

Discussing Baby

from 1938.


Christina

: No, but that’s a dream of yours, that is the many Drew dream I’ve ever heard. Now at this stage, I’m simply likely to be rewriting motion picture history, to accommodate my personal whims.


Drew

: Great, I like that. Okay, i am at an event and that I do not enjoy any person there. Ultimately, I see this girl, we once had a crush on and we also decide to keep together. We check-out her household, however they are chased down from this gang of males that are attempting to eliminate the woman. We end up on a beach therefore seems like we will end up being fine through to the males look for you. She ends up being into this additional man, therefore I grab cartoonish dynamite and decide to strike my self up


Christina

: Film.


Drew

: this can be! This will be Jean Luc Goddard’s

Pierrot ce Fou

, from 1965.


Christina

: Have not seen, but that seems like a ding dang movie in my experience.


Drew

: Great, I love it. There is a narration describing an odd boat like structure that’s impossible to wreck. I’m going on a retreat close to the construction, the escape is sort of theater associated, sort of religious. I’ve a crush with this woman on refuge, but she’s a boyfriend. Amid the performances and rituals, there are plenty of crisis between me which lady along with her sweetheart, it comes to an end with me by yourself. There has been a sequence revealing that the ship framework is impossible to wreck because a mechanical supply fixes it inside the evening.


Christina

: that may be something in plenty techniques, i will say flick once more, then?


Drew

: it really is an aspiration from 2011, that did have narration from some other person, you realize, it occurs!


Christina

: this is actually good promo to have an aspiration journal, because I feel enjoy it will be fun if I could keep in mind my desires this way.


Drew

: no body likes as soon as you describe your ambitions in their eyes. I actually do though, and I also’m the pal, when you should record your own hopes and dreams and let me know, I would personally want to learn about all of them.


Christina

: Okay, which is very nice to listen.


Drew

: We have two even more.


Christina

: Okay.


Drew

: i am in an attractive yard with a small grouping of friends, each of us seem to be getting up from being drugged. We’re forced to bathe in an acid that drains pigment and then we turn out to be blond and blue-eyed. People in control start teaching all of us to destroy, as it happens this place is being operated by a crazy dictator, we reject getting entirely brainwashed. There is this woman here You will find a crush on and that I persuade the lady to flee beside me, while escaping I get recorded and slain, but the girl becomes out. When she will leave the jail, she realizes we are in the exact middle of a forest generally there’s no place to visit.


Christina

: Movie.


Drew

: that will be the most important fantasy inside my fantasy journal from, we mentioned, “2007.” Is in reality 2006.


Christina

: Wow.


Drew

: i believed it had been interesting that we perish in the dream, nevertheless other person goes on on. However, there’s some unusual gender things happening there, and that I’m probably have to consider this one for a while.


Christina

: Definitely accomplish that.


Drew

: Okay, We have an additional.


Christina

: Okay.


Drew

: i am because of the possiblity to be a ballerina, my mother claims i will not be able to take action. There’s this various other lady when you look at the tv series exactly who I think is hot, but i am worried she is going to replace me. I am battling in rehearsal, but-end up leaving aided by the girl, we hook-up. It is hot, but i’m myself personally dropping control, we go back to the dancing tv show. My own body appears to be morphing into something else, i am worried that i will damage.


Christina

: this is certainly a motion picture.


Drew

: Very,

Black Swan

.


Christina

: Yes, which

Ebony Swan

, truly.


Drew

: Have you viewed

Dark Swan

? That has been one I thought you observed.


Christina

: I’ve come across

Dark Swan

, I… Fun reality, we went on a date with one to see

Dark Swan

.


Drew

: Wow.


Christina

: simply straight circumstances I did.


Drew

: that was that like?


Christina

: Weird, it absolutely was odd.


Drew

: Do you like the movie? Did the guy such as the movie?


Christina

: i believe, I’d currently seen it, In my opinion I became want, “Let’s go view it once more.” I do believe, I was extremely pro

Black Swan,

and for directly heterosexual reasons, truly.


Drew

: Sure, okay.


Christina

: And, he was like, “that has been weird.” And I was actually love, “Oh well, we’re not planning to still day.”


Drew

: Wow, well If only him the very best, I’m hoping he’s someplace successful. Thanks for playing this game beside me.


Christina

: Wow, I’m therefore pleased we went two for but numerous we performed thereon.


Drew

: perhaps not bad.


Christina

: perhaps not awful.


Drew

: You did much better than Elise did whenever I wished to find out if it was an operating game which could work, and she was my guinea pig. So, she only got one right.


Christina

: Fair adequate.


Drew

: Should we proceed to all of our major subject associated with few days?


Christina

: Why don’t we go into it, let us get this special visitor in.


Drew

: Well, I want to first declare that the main topic in the few days is bottoming, therefore we could have only one really unique guest.


Christina

: It really is just one individual.


Drew

: are you able to please present your self?


Chingy

: Hi, i am Chingy Nea, also referred to as The Gay Chingy. I will be a Writer, Filmmaker, and gasian leather dyke muppet. I will be additionally The united states’s number one base.


Christina

: Yes, i believe whenever we happened to be talking about topics and in addition we’re like, “We could discuss bottoming there’s actually only 1 individual we can easily have from the pod to take action, there’s just one individual who is fairly practically the Supreme.”


Chingy

: Thank you so much for recognizing, it feels very good getting your own wonder respected, thank you


Christina

: Yes, and you’ve accomplished fantastic work, and here we’re identifying it.


Drew

: i wish to understand when you feel you turned into The usa’s biggest bottom. When was actually that a word and a label and an identity which you really held onto?


Chingy

: Well, and so I frequently simply say, “I’m the underside Supreme.” Because, just who cares about America?


Drew

: Certain.


Christina

: reasonable enough.


Chingy

: Yeah, i believe that i usually really was effective in bottoming, but then in 2017 or something like that, we decided to go to a play celebration that has been simply for fem top sadists conquering me personally up for six to seven hrs straight, and it was just me, and I was actually like, “Oh, i am the greatest that is ever before already been.” After which, I think following that, i recently held escalating and being, wow, I’m therefore fun to look at. Wow, i am so interesting as a bottom, this really is wow, everybody just who reaches finest me can be so happy. And, it really went from that point, I think, then we typed articles also known as I’m A Much Better Bottom Than You. Here Is Why. It was kind of a manifesto, it absolutely was a bottom manifesto.


Christina

: Yes, can verify.


Chingy

: And, lots of people have told me, “It is altered how they consider intercourse.” And, I really like that a lot. It is the one post to my website that I’ve composed here. I’ve created at

Vice

,

Teen Fashion

,

Vulture

—

Autostraddle

had been initial spot I published, really. But yeah, that’s the one blog on my website, when you need to check it out.


Christina

: I like a good brand name, i enjoy knowing a brand name, and I also believe’s really gorgeous, simply, brand handling of your own bottomy your self. I believe, which is really gorgeous observe.


Chingy

: thanks, i acquired my personal very first writing opportunity at

Autostraddle

because I was currently talking about getting a bottom, being poly, and being truly deep into getting a leather-based dyke. And since next, i have began to reveal a number of other things, but getting bottom part supreme just method of could be the one through line of every thing.


Christina

: Yes.


Drew

: I additionally feel you’re a very active bottom plus in how which you come up with, and explore, and I also presume knowledge bottoming that you are extremely energetic. Whereas, In my opinion there are many the queer neighborhood, perhaps, particularly the lesbian neighborhood, that perhaps thinks of bottoming as… I am not sure-


Chingy:

Passivity

.


Christina

: Mm-hmm

(Affirmative)

.


Drew

: Yeah.


Chingy

: Yeah, I usually say that absolutely way less soles than individuals think tend to be soles. I do believe there is a big change between becoming a bottom and merely unsure or requesting what you need. In my opinion those are a couple of totally various things that individuals conflate.


Christina

: i’d have to agree, I additionally think the way in which you discuss bottoming is actually, i am talking about, let us merely say it, really significantly less frustrating compared to the method more and more people talk about getting a base or identify with bottom part society. Because, i actually do believe exactly what lots of people assert explicitly or non clearly is just, i will be idle and don’t proper care accomplish any sort of motion, activity, et-cetera, i’d like circumstances done to myself. And, if I have to seek that out in in any manner, that hurts my emotions. And, you will be so excellent and strong at becoming, these are the issues that i would like, bring these to myself and that I will rock your globe. Definitely attractive for me.


Chingy

: thanks, I mean, that is what you should do is great at merely one thing, you have to put your self nowadays and check out and come up with blunders acquire harm somewhat, and, I’m not sure, learn from it.


Christina

: I think that’s a great information, honestly.


Chingy

: I’ve only already been bottoming since I have had been, I’m not sure, as far back as I am able to bear in mind. [laughs]


Drew

: Cue “Rags to wealth” from

Goodfellas

.


Chingy

: Yeah, as far back as i could remember, i wanted to be a bottom. No, but type of, once I ended up being 13 or 14, I became currently checking out BDannonces de dominatrices SM web sites and lesbian SADOMASOCHISM internet sites. Thus, I happened to ben’t under any delusions in what I found myself pertaining to, I found myself having girls we dated in high-school choke me personally around, we realized the things I desired. And thus, that amount of consciousness recently provided me a long time to know what I want and figure out how to have it.


Christina

: Beautiful, received, provide me your emotions on bottoming.


Drew

: Well, i am actually truly excited to share this because i’m like in 2019 {when I|as I|while